The argument that because complex life exists, it must have been “created” is ridiculous, and it’s time someone said it. Yay, we have lots of chromosomes, we can see in color and keep erections for 4+ hours (commercials say see a doctor, I’d rather see a sorority house), but explaining away the unexplainable with magical explanations is as real as the emails I get from the prime minister of Nigeria who wants to send me $4 million dollars via a cashiers check.
1. “Earth is the perfect environment, it had to have been made for us”

Nai-eve. Get real. I point you to Arachaea, aka Archaebacteria and Extremophiles. These miraculous organisms live in ridiculously extreme climates. Climates much like that of, I don’t know, other planets perhaps? The point is, different kinds of life require different things. Ours needs water, oxygen and beer. Anyway, as far as we know, in the 9 planets (fuck you, Pluto still counts) we have in our Solar System, we’re the only ones with real sentient life, so I guess that means we’re the only ones right? Oh wait, I forgot about the BILLIONS+ of other planets and solar systems in other galaxies and what not that we haven’t been to or seen up close. So we’re here, great, that’s awesome, but if it were so damn perfect, Canada would be part of the United States, it wouldn’t be so damn cold here in the winter, and Yellow Stone would shoot up Budweiser. Hey, a guy can dream right?
2. Free Will - Contradicting a Contradiction

God “gives” us “Free Will” so that we can choose which path to follow. He knows what we’re going to do, but he’s “giving” us the choice to, uhm, choose what he already knows we’re going to do? To put it simply, if God can know 100% without a doubt you’re going to do it, it’s set in stone, you can’t change it, you’re just fulfilling destiny or a “plan” laid out by someone else. Either he gives us free will to do what we want (in which case there are many different paths and there is no way to KNOW which one we’ll do), or it’s all an illusion and you’ve got a puppet string coming out of your ass.
3. Hillary Clinton is leading the polls

If there is a God, and he does love us, then this would never have happened. Every time I realize my calendar doesn’t say April, I wonder if there is a God and he has a sick sense of humor, but then it would have to be a really, really sick sense of humor.
4. Evolution

I don’t actually think that evolution disproves creationism, actually if there was an “intelligent designer” this would have been an “intelligent design” to build in. It’s nature’s undo button once you figure out that giving tigers the ability to fly just wasn’t the best idea out on the market. But since the church feels that evolution cannot co-exist with creationism, point me.
5. Intelligent Designs lack of a designer

Aren’t we smart, we are truly awesome. Don’t misunderstand me, I love walking on two legs and peeing standing up, but telling me that we have to be created by a magical being just because we exist, begs questioning.
Logic dictates that if (a) we are here so we must have come from somewhere, i.e. a “designer” who is more complex and intelligent than us, then (b) a complex and intelligent designer, would also have to have come from somewhere i.e. a “designer” who is even more complex and intelligent.
If the reasoning for a God is we’re here, then where did he come from? My favorite famous lines are “he always was” and “no one knows”. Shave the wool off your back and follow the herd if you believe that. If someone HAD to have created us, they would have HAD to have been created. If our creator could have ALWAYS been or just magically appeared, then so could we have.
We can’t just assert that God is mightier and he just magically came to be, if that’s the logic, I say someone still had to find him in the bottom of a cereal box, it’s a paradox.
6. Ron Paul is behind in the polls

“Congressman Ron Paul (R-Texas) is the leading advocate for freedom in our nation’s capital.” He’s advocating for FREEDOM, come on, how can you not love freedom. He wants to legalize pot and I’ve seen him kiss at least 6 babies in the past week. He wants to get rid of the IRS, imagine a world without angry letters from those bastards! If God existed, Ron Paul wouldn’t be just President, he would have been made Co-God back in the 60s.
7. Pot is illegal but Alcohol is A-Okay
Alcohol, the leading cause of drunk driving, and as such the leading cause of alcohol-related deaths, is totally cool for me to drive down to the liquor store to pick up and binge drink on. On the flip side, lighting up a joint and scarfing down a large pizza or two will get you boned hard. If God was around, he’d rather I eat a bag of Doritos and pass out than get drunk, beat my wife and piss on the couch. The worst that can happen with pot is smoking yourself stupid and passing out, but alcohol makes people angry. Hulk mad. If only there were a God… and then Ron Paul would set the record straight.
8. Bad things happen to good people, great things happen to bad people
For a society that constantly gets the short end of the stick when it comes to miracles, I’ve never fully understood how people can whipe away such an obvious shortcoming with one or two hail marys. If we’re God’s children, how come Bin Laden hasn’t been bent over his knee and beat with a wooden spoon yet? Why the hell are people stopping to help stalled motorists and getting raped murdered, and why is it that every time a girl scout makes it to my door she’s out of thin mints? I’m sick of it. Shortbread cookies suck, they do. There, I said it. Aside from such atrocities, every single day bad people get rewarded, while good people are getting creamed on the side of the road by drunk drivers. Give credit where credit is due, if you’re an asshole, you should have karma spitting in your face, and if you’re a good-looking, stand-up guy who wants some damn thin mints, you should get some damn thin mints.
9. Blind Faith

If we’re supposed to believe in a God, and he wants us to believe in him, and the only way for eternal salvation is to believe, then why can’t he take 30 seconds to hop off his throne made of golden baby carcasses and pop in and have coffee with me tomorrow? Starbucks, 10:30, I’ll buy. If it’s such a big deal to believe, why is it not such a big deal to give a reason to believe in?
10. The proof is in dying

Ever notice how religions promise us stuff that cannot be instantly proven? One of the biggest promises is heaven after we die or in Islam they promise 72 virgins. That has got to be the lowest thing.. promising pussy in the after life for accepting their religion.
The biggest logical fallacy is that a religion can offer us millions and millions of years of heaven for accepting their beliefs for just 100 years max? What is the ratio there there, how can accepting something for 100 years or so get you something for millions of years (or eternity) to come. When something looks too good to be true, it probably is.
7 Responses to "Top 10 reasons to belive logic over religion."
March 16, 2008 8:18 AM
Good stuff and I agree for the most part.
However I think you missed on the 2nd reason. How does foreknowledge contradict free will.
Just because 'god' knows what we'll do doesn't mean we don't have a free will.
Other than that, right on the money!
-gojo-
March 16, 2008 1:20 PM
So you believe that bad things happen because there is no god? Or that if religion cannot explain everything that it cannot be valid?
How about if science and logic are the answers to how and not the answer to why? Atheist fanatics are just as bad as religious fanatics and fundamentalists.
March 16, 2008 1:26 PM
>How does foreknowledge contradict >free will.
Because if some entity knows beforehand what will happen, it has already happend somehow. One decision always spawns a cascade of events which all directly and indirectly influence other events and decisions.
If there is free will we can completely decide on our actions which in turn influences a very cdynamic system. Or everything is predetermined because your actions will influence others decisions now or in hundreds of years. These people have no influence on your decisions a so cannot have a free will. Unless nothing is known and events are created on the fly.
March 16, 2008 1:40 PM
I think what ibxx was trying to say was:
If god knows that you are going to choose option 1 over option 2, there is no real choice. There is the illusion of choice. You do not have the ability to choose option 2.
bluecalx2 said:
"Atheist fanatics are just as bad as religious fanatics and fundamentalists."
Uh... Atheist fanatics write articles that logically disprove religion or poke fun at the silly beliefs of people with the minds of sheep. Religious fanatics set themselves on fire, hate people based on sexuality, hijack planes & crash them into buildings.
But they are just as bad...
Oh, and are you trying to say the answer to why is because god said so? good one.
Religion is so silly. It is amazing that people actually believe it.
March 16, 2008 3:00 PM
Of course religion is silly. Actually it gives God a bad name. BUT that doesn't mean there isn't a higher power than us in the Universe. We have to define what we mean by God before we can logically argue it. If you're talking about a man in the sky, yeah, that's pretty silly. Reading the bible literally is silly.
But I agree that Athiests can be as closed minded as a fundie X-tian, and that Atheism is a response to religion (one it deserves) rather than an honest look for a higher power. I believe science will prove the existance of this force, or whatever you want to call it, but not in our life time.
March 16, 2008 3:46 PM
Atheism cannot create the closed minded approach of a theist. Sure, some people are closed minded, but a complete lack of faith is not closed minded. It is a mind do open that it will look at all the options, use logic and above all, reason, before even beginning to postulate on how we all got here. Me, I think clay theory is the best so far...
March 16, 2008 5:29 PM
Perhaps there are close minded atheists, but I have never met one.
Because of the relative rarity of atheism, many atheists are brought up in religious families, and often religious communities.
Because atheists are the most mistrusted member of society in america, it is fair to say that atheists are constantly trying to be convinced by friends and family members that they are wrong. At least this is the case for many of the atheists I know.
The point is, it takes a lot of thinking, and a bit of debate and research in order to be an atheist. Atheists reject religion because it doesn't make sense, not because they are close minded.
Should I call someone close minded because they don't believe that I shit out magical conscious shit, that commands the world to do things? You might be able to get away with calling someone close minded if they didn't even consider it for a second, but the fact is most atheists have spent a great deal of time considering religion.
I have yet to meet a close minded atheists, from the atheists I know, it seems the only real difference is how vocal an individual atheist is, but at the end of the day, we all think religion is bunk.
To add one more thing, every single atheist I know, would immediately convert to a religion if they could honestly provide proof that it was true.
There are absolutely 0 theists that would be swayed by evidence, because if they could be, they wouldn't be theists, because there is exactly 0 evidence that any of the religions are true.
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